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	<description>Dotfuscator, DashO, Runtime Intelligence, and PreEmptive Analytics</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 21:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on How do you get $5 from every .NET developer on the planet? by nrush</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/27/cpage/1#comment-10295</link>
		<dc:creator>nrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone setting up a company like that would probably have a difficult time finding out how to target their customers. We simply don't have access to the list of customers who have purchased your product. Also, the other blog entry that linked to this that stated there would be 35% - 45% of users interested in this seems to have been pulled from thin air, i.e. made up. The true target is the 15% of customers who have already purchased Dotfuscator Pro, the CE users aren't going to spend money on something like this. And, of that 15%, there are probably (I'll make up a number here too) about 10% of that number willing to pay a subscription fee to have this kind of service hosted for them instead of simply hosting it themselves.

And, based on your previously posted sales numbers, that would be 10% of the 15% of roughly 6 million Visual Studio customers that are available. Therefore there are probably a target market of 90,000 customers, that is relatively small. Though, still a large monetary value if you were to successfully charge all 10% around $5 / mo., which would come out to around $450,000 gross a month. However, getting that many companies to sign up for that kind of subscription is probably unlikely without having an inside edge at preemptive to advertise your services. Which of course, shrinks the pie, so the price has to be raised to make up for it which would draw down demand and affect the success of the service. Maybe I'm being negative. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone setting up a company like that would probably have a difficult time finding out how to target their customers. We simply don&#8217;t have access to the list of customers who have purchased your product. Also, the other blog entry that linked to this that stated there would be 35% - 45% of users interested in this seems to have been pulled from thin air, i.e. made up. The true target is the 15% of customers who have already purchased Dotfuscator Pro, the CE users aren&#8217;t going to spend money on something like this. And, of that 15%, there are probably (I&#8217;ll make up a number here too) about 10% of that number willing to pay a subscription fee to have this kind of service hosted for them instead of simply hosting it themselves.</p>
<p>And, based on your previously posted sales numbers, that would be 10% of the 15% of roughly 6 million Visual Studio customers that are available. Therefore there are probably a target market of 90,000 customers, that is relatively small. Though, still a large monetary value if you were to successfully charge all 10% around $5 / mo., which would come out to around $450,000 gross a month. However, getting that many companies to sign up for that kind of subscription is probably unlikely without having an inside edge at preemptive to advertise your services. Which of course, shrinks the pie, so the price has to be raised to make up for it which would draw down demand and affect the success of the service. Maybe I&#8217;m being negative. :-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Launch of Visual Studio 2010 &amp; Dotfuscator CE 5 by Nada</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/154/cpage/1#comment-10278</link>
		<dc:creator>Nada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 06:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one Google!Nokia's WRT platform for s60v5 ivedces uses html, css and javascript in a chromless browser. Apps are really one big html file that hides/unhides sections as required.Would Analytics for Mobile work easily on the WRT platform? Is there a workaround to get Analytics to work without waiting for an SDK plugin?If not, and given that WRT is html-ready, would it be possible to use regular Google Analytics instead? Are there any issues to watch out for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one Google!Nokia&#8217;s WRT platform for s60v5 ivedces uses html, css and javascript in a chromless browser. Apps are really one big html file that hides/unhides sections as required.Would Analytics for Mobile work easily on the WRT platform? Is there a workaround to get Analytics to work without waiting for an SDK plugin?If not, and given that WRT is html-ready, would it be possible to use regular Google Analytics instead? Are there any issues to watch out for?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dotfuscator and MSBuild by ion Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/61/cpage/1#comment-10087</link>
		<dc:creator>ion Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 04:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this work with xap wp7 packages?</description>
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		<title>Comment on The new WP7 App Hub reporting is great – and it’s even better with analytics! by Steven Walsh</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/310/cpage/1#comment-10085</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry -- this is a question not directly related to this post.  I was wondering if anything from your talk last Thursday for the NYC .NET group was available online.

Thanks,
Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8212; this is a question not directly related to this post.  I was wondering if anything from your talk last Thursday for the NYC .NET group was available online.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Steve</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jumping into the Clouds by Administrate</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/58/cpage/1#comment-10009</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 14:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Events Post...

Event software stories to enjoy....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Events Post&#8230;</p>
<p>Event software stories to enjoy&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Notes from the RSA Conference by bradyliu</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/14/cpage/1#comment-5221</link>
		<dc:creator>bradyliu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>com.preemptive.dasho.DashOException:NO input classes. how to deal? thanks!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Launch of Visual Studio 2010 &amp; Dotfuscator CE 5 by Joe Kuemerle</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/154/cpage/1#comment-4319</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Kuemerle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 19:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedro,

To follow up, PreEmptive has officially stated that the PreEmptive.Attributes.dll library may be freely distributed with application source code see: http://preemptive.com/blog/archives/162 .  In addition, we are providing a version of that assembly that can be included in pre-.NET 4.0 projects here: http://runtimeintelligence.codeplex.com/releases .

We understand the additional friction involved in there being no automated build solution available for open source and community projects and are currently working on ways that we can help with that as well.  Keep an eye on this blog as we'll certainly continue to talk about it here.

Thank you for your feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedro,</p>
<p>To follow up, PreEmptive has officially stated that the PreEmptive.Attributes.dll library may be freely distributed with application source code see: <a href="http://preemptive.com/blog/archives/162" rel="nofollow">http://preemptive.com/blog/archives/162</a> .  In addition, we are providing a version of that assembly that can be included in pre-.NET 4.0 projects here: <a href="http://runtimeintelligence.codeplex.com/releases" rel="nofollow">http://runtimeintelligence.codeplex.com/releases</a> .</p>
<p>We understand the additional friction involved in there being no automated build solution available for open source and community projects and are currently working on ways that we can help with that as well.  Keep an eye on this blog as we&#8217;ll certainly continue to talk about it here.</p>
<p>Thank you for your feedback.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Launch of Visual Studio 2010 &amp; Dotfuscator CE 5 by Pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/154/cpage/1#comment-4316</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 13:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brandon,

Thanks for your candid reply. I think your suggestion of using Dotfuscator's UI to store the attribute preferences could work, although it is not ideal, at least for me. I like being able to do a Find in Sources in my code for all currently defined Features. In the long run, the GPL approach seems to be the best way to go.

Regarding MSBuild integration, I can certainly see its value for Pro licenses, and I'm definitely not advocating that this should be made available in CE. Instead, PreEmptive Solutions could take applications from Open Source projects in order to supply them with some sort of free license that would give that kind of support.

Just my two cents.

Thanks,
Pedro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brandon,</p>
<p>Thanks for your candid reply. I think your suggestion of using Dotfuscator&#8217;s UI to store the attribute preferences could work, although it is not ideal, at least for me. I like being able to do a Find in Sources in my code for all currently defined Features. In the long run, the GPL approach seems to be the best way to go.</p>
<p>Regarding MSBuild integration, I can certainly see its value for Pro licenses, and I&#8217;m definitely not advocating that this should be made available in CE. Instead, PreEmptive Solutions could take applications from Open Source projects in order to supply them with some sort of free license that would give that kind of support.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Pedro</p>
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		<title>Comment on Launch of Visual Studio 2010 &amp; Dotfuscator CE 5 by Brandon Siegel</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/154/cpage/1#comment-4289</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 15:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pedro,

Thanks for your insightful comments. I'm glad to hear that you found Runtime Intelligence as easy to use as we like to think it is :) I've forwarded your comments to some people who I hope will be able to do something about them. You can of course do instrumentation without referencing the PreEmptive.Attributes.dll by defining your attributes in Dotfuscator's UI (where they will be saved in your config file, which can be stored in your project's source control repo). Obviously this is not ideal in some situations - going forward I am looking to see the code to our Attributes DLL released under a GPL-compatible license (I personally cannot see a reason not to, as it's simply a bunch of attribute definitions). As far as build integration, I cannot predict where we will go with that. I'd personally like to see at least command-line support added to CE, but the powers that be certainly see build integration as a motivator for Dotfuscator Pro purchases. We as a company are committed to open source, and I have been and will continue to make sure that open source developers have the tools they need, cost-free and under compatible licensing, in order to help their software succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pedro,</p>
<p>Thanks for your insightful comments. I&#8217;m glad to hear that you found Runtime Intelligence as easy to use as we like to think it is :) I&#8217;ve forwarded your comments to some people who I hope will be able to do something about them. You can of course do instrumentation without referencing the PreEmptive.Attributes.dll by defining your attributes in Dotfuscator&#8217;s UI (where they will be saved in your config file, which can be stored in your project&#8217;s source control repo). Obviously this is not ideal in some situations - going forward I am looking to see the code to our Attributes DLL released under a GPL-compatible license (I personally cannot see a reason not to, as it&#8217;s simply a bunch of attribute definitions). As far as build integration, I cannot predict where we will go with that. I&#8217;d personally like to see at least command-line support added to CE, but the powers that be certainly see build integration as a motivator for Dotfuscator Pro purchases. We as a company are committed to open source, and I have been and will continue to make sure that open source developers have the tools they need, cost-free and under compatible licensing, in order to help their software succeed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Launch of Visual Studio 2010 &amp; Dotfuscator CE 5 by Pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.preemptive.com/blog/archives/154/cpage/1#comment-4251</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 00:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the product has great potential, and the CodePlex/PreEmptive partnership could become a great story. However, for that to happen for anything other than the simplest of projects, a couple of things would need to happen:
- Serious open source projects use some kind of automated build, which will not work with PreEmptive because the MSBuild task is only available for Pro licenses.
- The attributes that are required in the source code (unless someone would ever want to edit those values in the UI every time the software is to be released) depend on a PreEmptive-owned DLL that cannot be redistributed. As such, the Open Source project owner cannot upload the DLL to the project source code repository.

These two situations will make the proposition a deal breaker, which is a shame, considering the benefit that Open Source projects could reap with little effort (I have completed that effort for Scrum Sprint Monitor, but now I have my hands tied with this situation).

Best regards,
Pedro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the product has great potential, and the CodePlex/PreEmptive partnership could become a great story. However, for that to happen for anything other than the simplest of projects, a couple of things would need to happen:<br />
- Serious open source projects use some kind of automated build, which will not work with PreEmptive because the MSBuild task is only available for Pro licenses.<br />
- The attributes that are required in the source code (unless someone would ever want to edit those values in the UI every time the software is to be released) depend on a PreEmptive-owned DLL that cannot be redistributed. As such, the Open Source project owner cannot upload the DLL to the project source code repository.</p>
<p>These two situations will make the proposition a deal breaker, which is a shame, considering the benefit that Open Source projects could reap with little effort (I have completed that effort for Scrum Sprint Monitor, but now I have my hands tied with this situation).</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Pedro</p>
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